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buckscrib · Jul 08, 2008, 10:03 PM // 22:03

Parents need to be responsible to know what their kids are doing.

Tyla · Jul 08, 2008, 10:09 PM // 22:09

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Originally Posted by Mr Joshua Strange

DRINK ALCOHOL ITS FUNNY!

I seriously lol'd irl at that.

credit · Jul 08, 2008, 10:28 PM // 22:28

Alcohol in-game or not, I'd still be drunk.

crazybanshee · Jul 08, 2008, 10:36 PM // 22:36

Yeah, technically gw is not for minors, every kid knows about booze and I don't think having some game involving booze is going to make some kid go out and drink. But that gets into the whole violent games don't make people violent etc. and how much of their behavior is preexisting and they're just using the game as an outlet etc etc.

Kanyatta · Jul 08, 2008, 11:01 PM // 23:01

For all the things happening that are supposedly "influenced by video games", I have this to say:

To be influenced by a video game that much, you probably have to be pretty messed up to begin with and are probably going to go through with that action with or without it being in a video game.

I've been playing for 3 years, I'm almost 18, and I have never touched any alcohol (outside of Communion at church), and I really have no desire to, and I have about 500 minutes of Drunkard on my Ranger.

Why is there a thread about alcohol in a video game? Why not make a thread about killing people with swords and bows and whatever? And performing hexes and enchantments?

Narcissia · Jul 08, 2008, 11:03 PM // 23:03

its fake... if they were actually drinking, i could understand... but its a game, they should know the difference between right and wrong. so, who cares?

Dr Strangelove · Jul 08, 2008, 11:04 PM // 23:04

As professional beer brewer, I wholeheartedly endorse this. Go nuts, alcohol is fun.

bamm bamm bamm · Jul 08, 2008, 11:43 PM // 23:43

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Originally Posted by Stockholm

What do you think about the situation about A-Net promoting Alcohol (sale of alcohol and the title "Drunkard") in a game marketed to +12, when the general consensus in our society is that we should minimize the exposure to alcohol as much as possible. Some states even banned alchole ads in places where kids are allowed.

Any thoughts on this?

Ignoring the whole 'kids can't tell games from reality' garbage, minimizing a child's exposure to alcohol and turning it into an anathema to be violated is a great way to turn your teenagers into binge drinkers. Same goes for anything. If you big it up and ban it, they'll rebel. You treat them like an adult and they'll become one. 12+ is nothing, over here in the UK you can give alcohol to 5 year olds at home. I used to be administered nightcaps when I couldn't sleep and it never did me any harm. *hic*

RotteN · Jul 08, 2008, 11:56 PM // 23:56

alcohol abuse punishes itself anyway.

So even if kids do get nuts on alcohol, the horrible hangovers will quickly teach them to drink responsibly. I agree with bamm on this one : overprotecting kids does NOTHING, except push them in that exact direction once they do find out about it as rebelious teenagers.

My parents never protected me from alcohol, they never freaked out when i had a beer. Right now I'm 23, and a seasoned drinker (gogo university). However, a responsible seasoned drinker. I can say no to alcohol when i want (and do so regularly) even under heavy peer preasure (hey, it's not fun to be sober when everyone else is pissdrunk). I never drunk beer at home, ... , only during parties or at a pub with friends.

Kinds will turn out just fine if they get raised properly, games or no games. Stop worrying.

slowerpoke · Jul 09, 2008, 12:20 AM // 00:20

make the game 21yr min age to play
prob solved

Kumu Honua · Jul 09, 2008, 12:34 AM // 00:34

The game is rated "T" for teen. That rating states the alcohol.

If a parent buys a game for their teen with alcohol in it. They already decided. If the child bought the game then his parents need to be parents.

fireflyry · Jul 09, 2008, 12:36 AM // 00:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bryant Again

It's a world of contradictions, and yes it's silly. People just don't see it to be as offensive as someone getting their head chopped off or a girl popping her breasts out (although I'd consider the latter more healthy material than alcohol...)

QFT

12 chars.....

HawkofStorms · Jul 09, 2008, 12:47 AM // 00:47

The game is rated T for teen BECAUSE of the use of alcohol in the game.
On the box, its rated T for suggestive themes, violence, and use of alcohol.

If you have a problem with the game being marketed for 12+, complain to the ESRB who rated the game Teen, not at A.net.

DarkGanni · Jul 09, 2008, 01:00 AM // 01:00

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Originally Posted by Narcissia

its fake... if they were actually drinking, i could understand... but its a game, they should know the difference between right and wrong. so, who cares?

However thats what inspires them to drink.

I would say the below posted article says alot what impact can games have on real life.

http://www.ripten.com/2007/12/20/two...-kombat-moves/

- Ganni

Darkobra · Jul 09, 2008, 01:02 AM // 01:02

In a game where people seek to kill each other over minor differences, I think the alcohol is just nitpicking.

Narcissia · Jul 09, 2008, 01:48 AM // 01:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by DarkGanni

However thats what inspires them to drink.

I would say the below posted article says alot what impact can games have on real life.

http://www.ripten.com/2007/12/20/two...-kombat-moves/

- Ganni

Using video games as a scapegoat doesnt make it true.
Blame the game! then i dont need to take as much responsibility. silly.

Hmm maybe u should reread the article... the last part of it... ill link it...
"There is no defense for this kind of crime. The pure malice you need in order to kill a 7 year old girl that brutally does not come, nor is there any evidence it comes from, video games. The fact video games are being dragged into this horrendous debacle is indicative of the current state of affairs and only reinforces the publics misconceived perception regarding the impact of videogame violence"
so you see... don't blame video games

Xx_Sorin_xX · Jul 09, 2008, 02:07 AM // 02:07

Yea. They should also remove the weapons as well. It encourages kids that's its okay to slash someone with a sword because they'll just get ressurected anyway.

Honestly, does anyone ever remember thinking "Wow that guy is drinking alcohol in a game, and he's cool. I must drink alcohol." Kids don't drink because of video games. Kids drink because other kids drink.

Sniper22 · Jul 09, 2008, 02:08 AM // 02:08

99.99% of kids can easily figure out the difference between video games and reality. That 0.01% are already cracked to begin with so it is not the video games that are the bad influence. Kids are more influenced by their environment: parents, friends, teachers, etc.

Here is a somewhat realistic situation:

Kid 1: Hey, my parents are gone for the weekend, want to come over. They've left beer in the fridge.
Kid 2: Sure

Now this is unrealistic:

Kid 1: Hey man, I was playing Guild Wars and I'm going for the drunkard title. Drinking seems like a lot of fun. Want to try it some time?
Kid 2: Ok.... Whats Guild Wars?

Get my point? I'm actually going for the drunkard title myself (3300 min currently) because I think it's the funniest title ever, but I never had a sip of alcohol and I don't really plan on drinking anytime soon.

garethporlest18 · Jul 09, 2008, 02:14 AM // 02:14

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Originally Posted by slowerpoke

make the game 21yr min age to play
prob solved

I know you're joking, but how would they go about enforcing that? Haha

ShadowsRequiem · Jul 09, 2008, 02:15 AM // 02:15

I agree less booze more topless girls!!! ZOMG!